Comments on: Debt ceiling sophistry and rebuttal

By: Debt ceiling bait and switch - Conservative News and Views

Debt ceiling bait and switch - Conservative News and Views — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:46:54 +0000

[...] Sophistry and rebuttal [...]

By: Terry A. Hurlbut

Terry A. Hurlbut — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:07:20 +0000

If you had bothered to follow the links, you’d get right through to the Cloward-Piven essay. And does it matter that Obama was five years old when Cloward and Piven wrote it? Don’t you credit him for being a quick study of those who came before him? (Frances Fox Piven is still alive, by the way.)

I think you’re protesting entirely too much. I think that you want to crush the productive under “The Weight of the Poor.”

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:54:19 +0000

Selling treasury bills at fire-sale is a great way to undermine the global financial system and ensure lots more wall street MD’s fail just as hard as Pupura and Bear Stearns.

Also, is an essay from 1966 truly the most ‘key’ resource you could have cited about the motivations of Barack Obama? (Way to hide that tidbit in the comments rather than the body of the article). Obama was 5 years old that year. One gets the impression that is also the last year you bothered to read an opinion that was different from your own.

By: John

John — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:51:24 +0000

“CNAV answers only to its own administrators as to editorial policy and the appropriateness of statements made in its name.”

You have just excused yourself from any journalistic integrity or accountability, but this is to be expected, I suppose, considering that a clear majority of comments on this blog (which is what this is) are usually attempts to correct glaring factual errors. All of these attempts at fact checking are ignored or met with hostility, and plainly erroneous statements continue to dominate this blog.

By: Terry A. Hurlbut

Terry A. Hurlbut — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:39:07 +0000

To Kyle:

1. CNAV answers only to its own administrators as to editorial policy and the appropriateness of statements made in its name.

2. Nicholas E. Purpura provided a reference to corroborate his statements. I suggest you read Cloward P and Piven FF, The Weight of the Poor: Toward a Guaranteed National Income, The Nation, May 1, 1966.

3. I suspect that you don’t have to read Cloward and Piven. I imagine that you are well-schooled in Cloward and Piven. Not to mention Mao.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:34:33 +0000

Actually Terry, Bill simply asked a question. One that you didn’t bother to answer.

By: Terry A. Hurlbut

Terry A. Hurlbut — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:04:35 +0000

Yes.

First, his problems began when he discovered some serious and pervasive land fraud in New York State, that not a single official wanted to curtail. Second, a good deal of his troubles came from crooked judges.

I’ll leave it to him to broach any more of this in public, here on this site, if he wishes. (He’s watching.)

But I would never advise anyone to brush off him or anyone else on some trumped-up excuse. Which is what you have.

I know the facts. You don’t. I’ve talked to the man. You haven’t.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:57:31 +0000

Purpura was a managing director of Bear Stearns, which collapsed in 2008 as part of the economic meltdown caused by Wall Street. He ruined himself financially with the longest running divorce case in New York’s history; four of the judges that heard it died. He’s now on his third wife. A quote by Purpura from the March 13, 2005 New York Post: “This divorce has destroyed me financially. I lost my job because of this, and my second marriage, too,” Purpura said. “But I won’t stop fighting, even if I have to live in a pup tent.”

Terry, why are we supposed to listen to this man’s judgment again?